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So, we are going to listen in to our
keynote speaker, Todd Keisner.

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Thank you so much for coming.

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He is going to talk about the managing
cultic variety in the Pompeii of the Sea

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and River, communication
of religious difference and on

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the middle of protest in
Parthian and Roman Dura-Europos.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much, Beatrice.

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Good morning, everybody.

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It's an honor and a pleasure to speak at
this conference on cultural difference

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management in religious
communication within

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Hellenistic and Roman
coastal settlements.

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And my talk will explore the astounding
religious variety attested in the small

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town of Dura-Europos, situated in Syria on
the Middle Euphrates.

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Here is Dura, Lyra I will mention.

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Now, I hear you wonder already,
should Dura really count as a coastal?

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It could indeed be argued that it is
neither, and now I cite from your outline,

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neither a long-distance maritime trade
city nor a medium-sized regional port hub,

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at least not in the traditional sense of
the word coastal.

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But when I received the invitation and
asked the organizers whether they were

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willing to accept Dura-Europos as a proxy
for port cities and coastal settlements,

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even though it is river-based,
Beatrice and Pablo responded, Dura

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reassured me that Dura
was in fact very much on their

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minds when they first
contacted me, so I'm safe.

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In terms of a site that offers evidence
for the study of cultural variety,

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a site where gods and goddesses coming
from different cultural spheres of

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influence met, it would
certainly be hard to find

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a more appropriate case
study than Dura-Europos.

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The town was home to more than 20 places
of worship, and basically anything on this

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map that is green is a religious site or a
sanctuary.

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I'll just quickly take you through them.

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Some of them we will go in detail through
afterwards.

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Temple of Aflat.

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J9 is Temple of Baal, Temple of the
Pomeranian Gods, Temple of yet another Zeus.

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I'll refer to it as Temple of Baal here.

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Mithraeum.

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Synagogue.

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Temple of Adonis.

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Church.

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No, Church, sorry.

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This is another Temple of Baal at M5.

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This is the Tuchaion.

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Artemis.

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Atargatis.

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Degade, which is the Aramaic plural for
Tucai.

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Zeus Megistos, I'll mention, and I will
talk quite a bit about Zeus Theos.

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And then there are some other Roman
military temples we'll see later.

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So...

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Around 20 places of worship.

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And of the numerous
deities that received cult and

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that I've just listed, some
came from the Greek world.

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Some were typically Syrian, like
Atargatis.

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Some were imported from the
caravan city Palmyra, circa 200

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kilometers to the west in
the heart of the Syrian steppe.

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Some traveled to Dura from their original
cult center elsewhere along the river.

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And now I realize that I forgot to say.

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Asanafcona, which will be relevant when I
talk about Afla.

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Asanafcona and Afla, they come from the
river.

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And some were the particular focus of the
Roman military.

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Now, in addition to the many traditional
polytheistic cults, Dura hosted a

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synagogue that was famously
decorated with scenes from

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the Hebrew Bible and the
earliest preserved house church.

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And neither of them I will really talk
about today.

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Large parts of the ruins, as you can see,
were never excavated.

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So these numbers are probably not
complete.

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And I'm obviously not counting the
clandestine digging that has ruined the

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site in more recent years following the
Syrian civil war.

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Dura Europos was situated on the plateau
of Salahiyya, overlooking the Euphrates to

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its east, with ravines to
the north and the south,

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and opening to the large
Syrian steppe to its west.

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The only site that was
fully dependent for its

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protection on the
surrounding fortifications.

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Dating from the Hellenistic period.

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So the Western city wall there.

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The various temples and shrines were
nearly all firmly embedded in the gridiron

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Hippodamian city plan,
which was implemented

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around the middle of
the second century BC.

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By then, Dura Europos seems to have
developed.

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This is a map from Pierre Lariche's work.

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Seems to have developed into a proper
little Greek polis.

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Grown out of an aglomeration.

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At the foot of the fortress
that was founded in

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the early Hellenistic
period under Seleucus I.

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Very little is actually known from Dura's
first 200 years.

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And nearly all buildings and dated
materials come from the period in which

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the town was first under Persian control
from around 113 BC.

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And finally, part of the Roman world,
traditionally counting from AD 165,

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but more intensively from the early third
century.

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Onwards.

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Possibly with representatives
from Palmyra stepping

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into a local power vacuum
during the second century.

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The town was eventually captured and
destroyed by the Sasanians around 256.

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Its unique archaeological
history has assured the brilliant

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preservation of its monuments
and documents for posterity.

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Apart from the religious buildings and the
fortifications.

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They include inscriptions and graffiti in
at least nine ancient languages.

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And dialects.

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Sculptures and frescoes
which uniquely combine

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elements of classical
and oriental art.

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Commonly known by the misnomer Parthian
art.

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The most important papyrological dossier
of any military unit in the Roman world.

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And a large amount of
written and material sources

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relating to the workings
of a vibrant local economy.

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The combination of a man made embankment.

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Built by the Romans to defend the town
against the Sasanians.

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And helpful climatological
conditions allowing

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for the preservation
of perishable materials.

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Has facilitated the study of life in an
ancient provincial small town to a degree

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that archaeology and history do not
usually allow.

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The unique preservation of the ruins of
Dura-Europos.

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Combined with the
disastrous death of much of its

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population at the time
of the town's destruction.

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Led the great Russian Yale
professor Mikhail Rostovtsev

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to come up with the moniker
Pompeii of the Syrian desert.

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In his review of Frans Cumont's Fruits de
Dura-Europos.

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Published in the American Historical
Review of 1927.

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Rostovtsev stated that in some respects
Dura is a Syrian Pompeii.

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Like Pompeii, it is primarily a
Hellenistic city.

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Like Pompeii, it shows
the gradual absorption

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and modification of
Hellenistic civilization.

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By a non-Greek population.

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The Italians in Pompeii.

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The Syrians in Dura.

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Ten years later, Rostovtsev
used the label again as the title

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of an article published in the
Italian journal Le Via del Mondo.

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La Pompeii del deserto syriaco.

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By then, the theme had been picked up by
many other scholars.

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Really until the current day.

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Not all scholars, however, have thought
the appellation suitable.

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And Jen Baird from Birkbeck, London.

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Its most recent and ardent critic,
called it Yes, useful for publicity

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purposes, but otherwise profoundly
misleading.

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Since the Dura Europos revealed from under
the sand, different from the Pompeii

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revealed from under the ashes,
was by no means a snapshot of urban life,

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but instead a picture of what
had become a place undergoing

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full military occupation on the
eve of the Sasanian onslaught.

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That said, the relevance of Dura Europos
for modern scholarship does not mirror the

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role played by the town in antiquity,
as is indeed the case also for Pompeii.

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And from that perspective at least, the
conventional nickname has some functionality.

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But you will of course have noticed that
my own playful use of the label in the

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title of my talk is slightly deviating
from the conventional presentation.

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Not Pompeii of the Syrian desert,
but Pompeii of the desert.

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From a geographical perspective,
certainly more correct.

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Even if, by leaving the city gate in
Dura's western wall, one immediately

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embarks on the route through the steppe
leading to Palmyra.

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This is the desert approach to Dura.

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I cannot claim to be the first one to
emphasise Dura's riparian location in this

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context, since the great Belgian medieval
historian Henri Pirenne, who also reviewed

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his compatriot Cumont's book,
characterised Dura in the Economic History

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Review of 1928 as a sort of Pompeii on the
Euphrates.

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But there is a particular reason for my
accentuating it today.

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When it comes to analysis and
interpretation of the coexistence in the

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town of deities from different cultural
spheres of influence, Dura's location on

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the river has often been treated as
secondary.

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The most famous discoveries at Salahije
were made along the desert wall,

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and much scholarly attention
has furthermore gone to the

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well-documented presence
of the many palmyrene cults.

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And those palmyrene cults
obviously reached Dura-Europos

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from the west through the
steppe, and not via the river.

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The common city map, based on an aerial
view from the south, looking towards the

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north, which distorts, I believe,
the approach from the Euphrates,

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this traditional view highlights the
splendid discoveries made both along Wall

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Street and in the centre of the Hippodamian
grid in the area near the Agora.

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A cross section of the western city wall
and the street running parallel to it,

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the so-called Wall Street, but that's an
archaeological label, explains the

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exceptional preservation of the adjacent
buildings.

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The Roman soldiers who defended
Dura-Europos against the neo-Persian siege

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first strengthened the embankment by
filling Wall Street, then constructed

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artificial slopes both on the outside of
the wall and inside the houses and temples

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that bordered on the street, and finally
demolished those parts of these buildings

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that were still exposed in
order to create a rampart that

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could be accessed without
problems from within the town.

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And it was indeed here that the most
famous findings were found.

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The temple of Baal,
with its wall paintings that

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spurred the original
discovery in 1920, top left.

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The temple of Baal or of the Pomeranian
gods with its wall paintings, that's...

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sorry, I just said that.

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Secondly, top right,
the synagogue with its

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decorated walls illustrating
the Hebrew scriptures.

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And there you can really see splendidly
how the slopes from the side of the

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building go, and the same is happening on
that side.

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This is now the main building.

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We construct it in Damascus.

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The Mithraeum, bottom right, and the
Baptisterium with the house church,

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top bottom left.

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But also sanctuaries to
Aflat, relief at the middle top,

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and Zeus Kurios Baal Shamin,
the Lord of the Heavens.

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In the center of the grid, to the south of
the Agora, were the large temples of

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Artemis, commonly
treated by scholars as one

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of the main civic
temples of Dura-Europos.

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And next door to it, that of Atargatis,
the Syrian goddess whose main cult center

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at Hierapolis became the
subject of a well-known treatise

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by the satirist Lucian of
Samosata in the second century.

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As regards the dominant evidence for
religious behavior of migrants from

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Palmyra in Dura-Europos, their places of
worship included, but were not restricted

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to, an extra mural temple dedicated to
Baal and Yarchebol, the already mentioned

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Temple of Baal, at least in the final
Roman period phase, when it was also known

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as the Temple of the Palmyrene Gods by
scholars, the small shrine of Zeus Kurios

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slash Baal Shamin, and a larger complex
with a part religious function

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conventionally labeled as the Temple of
the Gade, next to the Agora.

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Another misnomer, by the way.

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The fact that the Palmyrene evidence has
received more attention, more than its

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fair share of scholarly attention,
is due in the first place because it

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clearly stands out thanks
to its use of a separate

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dialect and script and of
an idiosyncratic art style.

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I have argued elsewhere that the actual
impact by the sizable community of

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migrants from Palmyra
on the local character of

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Dura-Europos has simply
been overstated thus far.

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That is not to say that the available
evidence for contact between Dura and

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Palmyra should be downplayed, but that
those contacts had more bearing on this

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specific community of Palmyrenes than on
their adopted residence Dura-Europos.

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And again, the perspective of the common
view of this over the city through aerial

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photography and the resulting north
viewing map has exacerbated the importance

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of the route opening up to the desert or
rather the Syrian steppe.

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From the main gate that
has unsurprisingly, long

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been baptized by scholars
as the Palmyra Gate.

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You can see why all this emphasis has gone
on the western wall and the palmyrenes.

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The story of the excavations itself also
plays a role in all of this.

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More than that of any other site in the
Hellenistic and Roman Near East,

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the study of Dura-Europos
is embedded in and

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often steered by its own
modern historiography.

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The study of the first finds
by James Henry Breasted, was a

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1924 monograph on the wall
paintings in the Temple of Baal.

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Cumont published his monograph Fouille de
Dura in 1926 following two seasons of

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excavations that focused
on the same Temple of

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Baal and on the Temple
of Artemis near the Agora.

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Highlighting also the apparently strong
connection between Dura-Europos and Palmyra.

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The spectacular finds made by the Yale
campaign in the 1920s and 1930s on the

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Rostovtsev leadership, including Church,
Synagogue and Mithraeum, they received the

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lion's share of attention in the resulting
preliminary and final reports.

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So in the remainder of my talk,
in order to offer some sort of

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counterbalance and also because it suits
the theme of the conference nicely,

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I believe, I will focus instead on
Dura-Europos from the perspective of its

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river location to investigate the impact
on the river's perspective on the local

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patterns of worship and on the way in
which these could be experienced.

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I am of course not suggesting that the
so-called Palmyra Gate did not function as

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a major access point for traffic arriving
from the Syrian steppe.

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But approaching the town from different
angles, with the help of other air

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photographs, one gains quite a different
perspective.

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Arrivals from the steppe to the west
notwithstanding, Dura-Europos was of

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course above all a Euphrates stronghold
founded by the Seleucids as a furion,

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a fortress overlooking the river.

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And this is what the other air photographs
convey marvellously.

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So this is looking, you
still see the desert bit

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here, but this is looking
from the north to the south.

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Already get a slightly different angle.

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And here we have an air view from the
river.

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And you immediately see that this western
wall with all the major finds there is

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quite far away when you come from this
side.

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Here we have one again looking north-east,
south-west.

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You can again see the river perspective.

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This was the welcome picture from a
Christmas card by Fjellerich many years ago.

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Hence Aeropost Dura instead of
Dura-Europos.

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This is utter nonsense of course.

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It should be Dura-Europos.

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Different paper.

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And another air photograph.

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Really looking straight over the fortress.

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And here we have some of the various air
photographs compared.

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So you can see that from
whatever angle you look, you really

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get a very different idea of
how the town can be approached.

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Unfortunately, access from the river in
the form of the so-called river gate there

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is no longer preserved.

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Preserved as the remains
of that river gate over

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time collapsed down the
gradient towards Euphrates.

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In any case, from the point of view of
daily life centred upon the river,

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the many temples and other buildings that
were erected along the so-called Wall

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Street were therefore in reality quite
peripheral.

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The temples of Aflaat,
of Suscurios and of Baal

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all made active use of a
tower or part of the wall.

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But also the temples of Adonis,
the synagogue, the church, the Mithraeum,

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were built as far from the river as
possible.

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And as I noted already, location from a
riparian point of view could always be

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even more peripheral than along Wall
Street.

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The extra mural sanctuary dedicated to the
Pomeranian gods Baal and Jargibal may have

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been the first temple that arrived from
the west.

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So from Palmyra came across.

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And here you have a view from the cellar
towards Dura Europa.

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So we're here in the step in that temple.

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But this was probably not really on the
itinerary of most citizens and certainly

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not of visitors who
arrived at Dura and were

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less inclined to venture
into the step zone.

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Now, to be fair, for some gods and their
worshippers who beyond a shadow of doubt

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arrived at Dura Europa
from the river, the town's

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periphery was still
going to be their focus.

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Two deities who received the cult on the
plateau of Salahiyye, and who are not

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known from anywhere else than Dura Europa,
came from a place further downstream the

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river, with both the god Aflat and the
goddess Azanathcona originating from the

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same island settlement in the Euphrates
called Anat.

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This is the temple of Aflat, so in the in
the south west of the ruins.

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In the case of Aflat, the connection is
made epigraphically.

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And rather explicitly.

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A relief from around the middle of the
first century AD.

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You have to believe me for now.

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We will see later why that is mid first
century AD.

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Depicting a deity outfitted in a
Hellenistic cuirass, standing on top of

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two griffins with a priestly figure
burning incense in front of him,

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is accompanied by a Greek
inscription which spells out the

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deity's identity in what I
think is astonishing detail.

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It records how Hadadiabos, son of
Zabdibelos, son of Silos, set up this

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image, this aphidrusis, from the sanctuary
of the god named Aflat of Anat,

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the village on the Euphrates,
as a vow for his own

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salvation and that of his
children and of his whole house.

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I added the commas which are not there in
Greek for a rhetorical effect.

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The deity's name is commonly explained as
a combination of the Akkadian word aplu,

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son and ada, meaning together son of
Hadad.

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It is transcribed differently in the
available Greek inscriptions from the temple.

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Aflat, Apallados, Afallados, which in
itself is a reflection of the fact that

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the divine name was originally spelled in
a different language than Greek.

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It also fits well with the fact that in
older times texts written in cuneiform had

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connected the son of Hadad to the middle
Euphrates region.

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The term used here, aphidrusis,
seems to claim that the image set up in

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the temple of Aflat at Dura was an actual
copy of an original cult statue,

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assumingly set up at his home sanctuary at
Anat.

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Whether that means that the god Aflat was
therefore subject to an orthodoxy of

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iconography in the same way as the much
more famous examples of the nearly

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canonical toponymic Jupiters of
Heliopolitanus and Jupiter of Dolica,

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that cannot be known.

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Since any comparative imagery for Aflat is
lacking.

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But it is pertinent to realize that in
most cases a traveling deity would undergo

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at least some modifications with regard to
worship patterns, even if originally he or

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she was thought to replicate a prototype
better known from elsewhere.

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Now, above all, the fact that in the more
ancient Near East, the deity known as the

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son of Hadad was worshipped in this same
region, as suggested by the cuneiform

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tablet that I just mentioned, that means
that there must have been, at least at

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some point, a form of representation of
the god that was different from this one

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where he is dressed in Hellenistic
cuirass.

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Perhaps that older image continued
alongside this one.

00:22:09.520 --> 00:22:10.520
We don't know.

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Now, the cult of Aflat has often
been the subject of discussions

00:22:14.002 --> 00:22:17.520
about religious participation
and interaction at Dura.

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For Kevin Butcher, for example,
it was the key example of what he

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described as the exclusive and inward
looking cultic patterns at Dura Europos.

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Exclusive and inward looking, Kevin
Butcher's words.

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In contrast, I have expressed
doubt as to whether this cult

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at Dura was indeed adhered
to only by villagers from Anat.

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Surely there would have been no need for
such meticulous description.

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In other words, how can an inscription
written in Greek, referring explicitly to

00:22:49.221 --> 00:22:55.340
the god named Aflat of Anat, the village
on the Euphrates, how can that not have

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been meant to communicate information to a
wider audience?

00:22:59.080 --> 00:23:00.460
But not everybody agrees.

00:23:00.760 --> 00:23:07.460
So Lucinda Dierver has argued,
contra me, that the phrase did indeed

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imply that the cult of Aflat was confined
to people from the village of Anat.

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And she stated that the
stress on the god's origin

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functions as an identity
marker for the group from Anat.

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She goes on by saying this formulation is
well known in the Roman Near East,

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and it does not follow
from this that people

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from other places
worship the god as well.

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Now, I'm, of course, happy to accept that
the emphasis on the roots of a deity can

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be perceived as an identity marker for a
benefactor.

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But I would still argue that the specific
explanation of Anat's very location in the

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epigraphic formula indicates that the
information was at least not solely aimed

00:23:47.621 --> 00:23:51.080
at those worshipers who themselves came
from the god's hometown.

00:23:52.340 --> 00:23:56.720
Robert Parker contributed to the debate by
calling the peculiar way in which the

00:23:56.721 --> 00:24:00.860
inscription specifies what is supposed to
be Aflat's original cult center,

00:24:01.340 --> 00:24:07.220
Anat, the village on the Euphrates,
as, Parker's words, a rare epigraphic

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example of such an apologetic formula in
recognition of the levels, the level in

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which observers were expected to be
unaccustomed to an unfamiliar deity.

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A separate target audience on the one
hand, and attendance to the cult who

00:24:23.741 --> 00:24:28.020
originally came from Manat on the other,
are, of course, not mutually exclusive.

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And in fact, there are other inscriptions
from the sanctuary, commonly overlooked,

00:24:33.060 --> 00:24:37.980
that confirm that citizens of
Dura-Europos, specified as Europaioi,

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could participate in the cult as well,
while the original villagers, as we will

00:24:42.881 --> 00:24:45.771
see now, could still
succeed to keep a

00:24:45.772 --> 00:24:48.820
distinctive status through
their own association.

00:24:50.040 --> 00:24:53.660
And this is clear from another Greek
inscription found at the same temple,

00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:59.520
which is dated to AD 54 and gives a list
of names of members of a cult association

00:25:00.180 --> 00:25:02.540
that erected a banqueting hall for Aflat.

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And one of the members of this association
was the dedicant of the relief,

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therefore it must be
middle, therefore the

00:25:10.052 --> 00:25:12.640
relief must date roughly
from the same time.

00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:17.760
Now, this group is explicitly referred to
as a hetairaia, a brotherhood,

00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:21.035
and its members built
and dedicated an androna,

00:25:21.095 --> 00:25:24.600
supposedly for their own
main, if not exclusive, use.

00:25:25.040 --> 00:25:28.660
The inscription is set up for the
salvation of a local magistrate,

00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:32.520
in addition to that of the dedicant's
family, as the standard formula,

00:25:32.660 --> 00:25:35.080
added at the end of the text, makes
explicit.

00:25:36.040 --> 00:25:40.280
Evidently, I believe, with the aim to
communicate this information to a wider public.

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The other deity known from Dura-Europos,
whom scholars have been willing to connect

00:25:46.661 --> 00:25:50.020
to the island settlement of Anat,
is the goddess Azanath-Kona.

00:25:52.020 --> 00:25:56.280
It was worshipped in a temple in the
northern section of the town, the part

00:25:56.281 --> 00:26:01.380
that was in the late second and first
century, late second and first half of the

00:26:01.381 --> 00:26:04.140
third century, sorry, taken over by the
Roman military.

00:26:04.460 --> 00:26:07.293
And it was in this temple
that the famous Feriala

00:26:07.313 --> 00:26:10.260
Duranum, the military
calendar, was founded.

00:26:10.261 --> 00:26:14.050
In the case of Azanath-Kona,
any association with

00:26:14.051 --> 00:26:17.540
the perceived original
cult center is less clear-cut.

00:26:17.760 --> 00:26:21.600
And the notion is based on the common
explanation of the divine name,

00:26:21.700 --> 00:26:27.580
Azanath-Kona, as Kona, the power of Anat,
which I find the most convincing solution,

00:26:27.900 --> 00:26:30.840
though some scholars have tried to give a
different meaning to the name,

00:26:30.940 --> 00:26:36.640
some proposing it, for example, as
meaning chief magistrate of the creatrix.

00:26:37.340 --> 00:26:42.160
Anyway, I think Kona, the power of Anat,
is most convincing, but it's debated.

00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:48.960
In any case, in a Greek inscription from
AD 161, Azanath-Kona is explicitly

00:26:48.961 --> 00:26:53.760
associated with the classical Artemis,
a goddess who also, as we have seen,

00:26:53.860 --> 00:26:56.540
had her own sanctuary at Dura,
to the south of the Agora.

00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:02.080
The relevant inscription from the temple
of Azanath-Kona records a dedication to

00:27:02.081 --> 00:27:08.740
Artemis, the goddess Thei-Kalumene,
who is also called Azanath-Kona.

00:27:09.300 --> 00:27:17.300
And the use of Kalumene served to express
a case of what Robert Parker called simple

00:27:17.301 --> 00:27:20.385
identification or equivalence
between two theonyms

00:27:20.386 --> 00:27:23.120
coming from different
cultural spheres of influence.

00:27:24.020 --> 00:27:28.900
It is certainly notable that by this time
the Greek divine name had achieved primacy

00:27:28.901 --> 00:27:32.220
over the indigenous one, under which the
goddess was solely known

00:27:38.740 --> 00:27:43.280
and possibly also Azanath-Kona are deities
who came to Dura from the Euphrates,

00:27:43.560 --> 00:27:47.420
but whose new places of worship were still
far from the river.

00:27:48.260 --> 00:27:52.760
With a view, therefore, to those gods
whose deities were, in contrast,

00:27:52.840 --> 00:27:56.820
directly visible to those people arriving
at the town from the Euphrates,

00:27:57.060 --> 00:27:58.160
we must look elsewhere.

00:27:58.460 --> 00:28:02.620
Above all, to a divine figure
conventionally known among scholars

00:28:02.621 --> 00:28:07.680
working on Dura-Europos as Zeus Theos,
Zeus the god.

00:28:08.740 --> 00:28:12.280
This sanctuary occupying the northern half
of block B3

00:28:15.710 --> 00:28:19.050
stood on the eastern edge
of the plateau opposite the

00:28:19.051 --> 00:28:22.490
citadel, rising above the
inner wall that led to the town.

00:28:23.130 --> 00:28:25.890
Here a picture with my back to the
Euphrates.

00:28:26.250 --> 00:28:28.870
You can kind of see
the city wall in the

00:28:28.871 --> 00:28:31.710
horizon and here you
can see that even better.

00:28:33.590 --> 00:28:40.510
And this is a picture not mine but by
courtesy of Julian Buchmann who took this

00:28:40.511 --> 00:28:45.330
picture while walking up from the river to
the temple of Zeus Theos.

00:28:45.610 --> 00:28:50.130
And of course, you can see how high it
would have risen when it was still complete.

00:28:53.210 --> 00:29:01.030
Its conventional scholarly label,
the temple of Zeus Theos, is based on one

00:29:01.031 --> 00:29:07.710
Greek inscription from AD 120 which records
a dedication of the Naos to Zeus the god.

00:29:07.930 --> 00:29:12.263
And there was a memento
from seven years earlier found in

00:29:12.264 --> 00:29:16.550
the same temple which refers
to Zeus but without the Theos.

00:29:17.630 --> 00:29:21.570
And discussions of these temples have
nearly all centered around a very

00:29:21.571 --> 00:29:28.510
questionable reconstruction by Frank Brown
of the wall painting on the rear wall from

00:29:28.511 --> 00:29:31.803
fragments which have only
been partly published and which

00:29:31.804 --> 00:29:34.790
have been thought to show
a non-classical looking deity.

00:29:35.250 --> 00:29:38.490
This is really debated, this
reconstruction.

00:29:39.450 --> 00:29:45.010
The sanctuary has also commonly been
interpreted as a sort of private place of

00:29:45.011 --> 00:29:48.340
worship again, according
to Kevin Butcher's idea

00:29:48.341 --> 00:29:51.610
frequented only by a small
part of the town's upper class.

00:29:52.370 --> 00:29:57.530
Now the fact that members of two leading
clans the Lysias family and the Bagates

00:29:57.531 --> 00:30:01.970
family seem to have been jointly
responsible for the cult in this temple

00:30:01.971 --> 00:30:05.390
does only say so much about its clientele,
I believe.

00:30:06.150 --> 00:30:09.660
Monopolization of sponsorship
will not necessarily have been

00:30:09.661 --> 00:30:13.710
at the detriment of participation
in the worship by others.

00:30:14.370 --> 00:30:18.130
Its location per se is no argument for or
against.

00:30:18.410 --> 00:30:24.250
One might of course indeed expect that
local aristocracy occupied prime positions

00:30:24.251 --> 00:30:29.950
but the tension was recently drawn by
Julian Buchmann to the fact that it

00:30:29.951 --> 00:30:35.810
concerns a building complex full of rooms
with stone benches and an interesting

00:30:35.811 --> 00:30:39.190
hypothesis that the temple was an
important civic religious center for the

00:30:39.191 --> 00:30:42.650
town as a whole and a first meeting point
for those arriving from the river.

00:30:50.770 --> 00:30:55.130
The persistent scholarly practice to
designate the main god of the temple as

00:30:55.131 --> 00:31:00.054
Zeus Theos does not only seem
rather odd it has also contributed

00:31:00.055 --> 00:31:03.390
to the idea of yet another
inward-looking exclusive cult.

00:31:05.390 --> 00:31:09.090
It is sometimes thought to have been
introduced to distinguish the Zeus who

00:31:09.091 --> 00:31:13.830
received the cult here from the other
Zeuses attested in the town

00:31:20.210 --> 00:31:28.210
whereas Megistus Soter and Kurios are all
established epithets emphasizing specific

00:31:28.211 --> 00:31:33.330
divine qualities Theos of course just
means god and would indeed seem a very

00:31:47.210 --> 00:31:51.441
peculiar Now, obviously,
no inhabitant of

00:31:51.442 --> 00:31:55.850
Dura-Europos needed to
be told that Zeus was a god.

00:31:56.370 --> 00:32:00.790
A similar practice is attested in Aramaic
inscriptions from the Near East in

00:32:00.791 --> 00:32:05.050
general, notably from Palmyra,
where the respective label Allaha,

00:32:05.290 --> 00:32:10.190
the Aramaic equivalent of Theos,
was often used for well-known deities

00:32:10.191 --> 00:32:12.890
whose divinity cannot have been in
question.

00:32:14.270 --> 00:32:18.750
And it may also be compared with the use,
similarly widespread and similarly applied

00:32:18.751 --> 00:32:24.070
arbitrarily, of an enigmatic symbol
attested on various palmyra and tesserae,

00:32:26.750 --> 00:32:34.750
which Rubina Raja and I have proposed to
interpret as a symbol to indicate

00:32:34.751 --> 00:32:39.670
notional, unnecessary indication of
notional divinity.

00:32:43.370 --> 00:32:47.630
So it is therefore not only awkward,
but I think actually misleading to refer

00:32:47.631 --> 00:32:50.430
to this temple in B3 as that of Zeus
Theos.

00:32:50.730 --> 00:32:54.728
It was the temple of Zeus,
and as its location would

00:32:54.729 --> 00:32:57.470
suggest, I think a rather
important one for that.

00:32:58.590 --> 00:33:01.930
Now, the second temple...
And there I will finish.

00:33:01.931 --> 00:33:06.150
That I would consider of particular
topographic importance from the riparian

00:33:06.151 --> 00:33:10.010
perspective is a sanctuary complex in
block C4.

00:33:11.510 --> 00:33:16.550
Not immediately visible from the river as
such, to be honest, but located on the

00:33:16.551 --> 00:33:20.650
so-called Redoubt Spur in between the
Strategaion and the House of Lysias,

00:33:20.930 --> 00:33:24.630
which was home to what was Dura's leading
family for many generations.

00:33:24.990 --> 00:33:28.930
So right in between the town's main
official's office and its residence.

00:33:29.410 --> 00:33:35.510
The temple in C4 is known among scholars
as that of Zeus Megistos, although in this

00:33:35.511 --> 00:33:39.050
case the idea of a dedication of the whole
building to Zeus is more problematic.

00:33:39.690 --> 00:33:44.230
The divine name with its epithet appears
only once in the context of the temple,

00:33:44.530 --> 00:33:48.082
namely in a Greek
inscription from AD 169, nine

00:33:48.083 --> 00:33:50.910
years after Dura suffered
a major earthquake.

00:33:52.190 --> 00:33:57.030
This inscription records how the main
officeholder of the town, the Strategos

00:33:57.031 --> 00:34:01.330
Cai Epistates, rebuilt the arch and the
portico in this stone building.

00:34:01.331 --> 00:34:06.550
To the left is the site of the There is no
evidence to suggest that the preceding

00:34:06.551 --> 00:34:10.570
temple, the one in need of rebuilding
following the natural disaster,

00:34:10.750 --> 00:34:15.630
was dedicated as a whole, or in part for
that matter, to Zeus Megistus,

00:34:15.949 --> 00:34:19.874
and other deities including
the Palmyrene god Arzu and a

00:34:19.875 --> 00:34:23.070
Herakles figure are also attested
within this temple complex.

00:34:24.370 --> 00:34:27.581
Zeus Megistus, on the
other hand, as a name,

00:34:27.582 --> 00:34:30.050
does appear in other
temples in the town.

00:34:30.969 --> 00:34:36.290
Whether one ought to think of the greater
Zeus as a specific individual deity set

00:34:36.291 --> 00:34:39.850
apart from other forms of appearance of
Zeus in Dura remains unclear.

00:34:40.750 --> 00:34:46.550
Sometimes the context makes clear that
Zeus is really another deity, as I believe

00:34:46.551 --> 00:34:50.449
is clear in the case of Zeus Kurios,
who is identified in a bilingual

00:34:50.450 --> 00:34:53.710
Greek-Aramaic inscription with the
Palmyrene god Balshamin.

00:34:53.889 --> 00:34:56.855
So here the starting point
is that it is a Palmyrene

00:34:56.856 --> 00:34:59.250
god Balshamin, translated
in Greek, Zeus the Lord.

00:35:01.330 --> 00:35:03.770
But sometimes Zeus is just Zeus.

00:35:04.970 --> 00:35:09.890
So is Zeus Megistus altogether distinct
from Zeus Theos?

00:35:10.530 --> 00:35:13.203
Was either of these
designations in fact concealing

00:35:13.204 --> 00:35:16.750
an indigenous god
through Interpatio Graeca?

00:35:16.910 --> 00:35:20.018
Or is this simply a case
of the main deity from the

00:35:20.019 --> 00:35:23.090
Greek pantheon receiving
a particular sobriquet?

00:35:25.050 --> 00:35:28.590
Once the Roman soldiers took control over
the northern part of the town,

00:35:28.591 --> 00:35:32.570
other sanctuaries were added to the
northeastern section of Dura Europos.

00:35:32.930 --> 00:35:34.630
But I'm not going to talk about them.

00:35:34.930 --> 00:35:37.170
The X9, about which we know nothing.

00:35:37.410 --> 00:35:41.690
We have the Temple of the Roman Archers,
about which we know nothing.

00:35:41.950 --> 00:35:47.330
We have a new, it's not even on the map,
citadel temple with free graffiti to Zeus.

00:35:47.550 --> 00:35:53.350
And we have the temple believed to be the
Temple of Jupiter Dolicanus.

00:35:55.090 --> 00:35:59.570
But until then, until these Roman temples
were built, the first places of worship

00:35:59.571 --> 00:36:01.855
encountered when entering
the town from the Euphrates

00:36:01.856 --> 00:36:06.650
remained the temple of which
one was dedicated to Zeus, Theos.

00:36:07.210 --> 00:36:11.950
And the other, at least in a later phase,
also received an important cult of Zeus,

00:36:12.890 --> 00:36:13.890
Megistus.

00:36:14.750 --> 00:36:19.010
Together with the major temples in the
vicinity of the Agora, notably the Temple

00:36:19.011 --> 00:36:23.230
of Artemis, about which I'm not talking
today, these must have presented an

00:36:23.231 --> 00:36:26.590
overarching picture of the religious life
of Dura Europos.

00:36:26.591 --> 00:36:31.950
And this topographically suggested
relevance matches the appearance of a

00:36:31.951 --> 00:36:36.330
priesthood of Zeus alongside priesthoods
of Apollo, of the ancestors and of

00:36:36.331 --> 00:36:41.410
Seleucus Nicator in the peculiar dating
formula of a deed of sale dated to AD 180.

00:36:42.010 --> 00:36:43.690
And this is a separate paper.

00:36:43.750 --> 00:36:44.990
I'm not going to give that now.

00:36:45.730 --> 00:36:50.470
To what degree this then implies
continuity from the early Hellenistic

00:36:50.471 --> 00:36:54.010
period or whether it is a reinvention of
tradition later on.

00:36:56.590 --> 00:37:00.910
How the multiple places of worship that
were relatively hidden away towards the

00:37:00.911 --> 00:37:04.270
western city wall were perceived in this
context remains to be debated.

00:37:04.790 --> 00:37:10.130
That Dura Europos offers, as the late
Simon Price noted, wonderful evidence for

00:37:10.131 --> 00:37:13.410
people and cults living side by side is
uncontroversial.

00:37:13.850 --> 00:37:18.130
But how the different deities and their
temples were perceived in relation to each

00:37:18.131 --> 00:37:21.085
other and how these respective
cults were experienced by

00:37:21.086 --> 00:37:24.470
Dura's inhabitants and visitors
alike is more difficult to say.

00:37:24.471 --> 00:37:29.670
With a view to the town's religious
topography, I have tried to make the case

00:37:29.671 --> 00:37:34.890
today that the division between a desert
site and a river site both between

00:37:34.891 --> 00:37:38.670
inverted commas ought to be taken into
account more when thinking about

00:37:38.671 --> 00:37:43.330
attendance patterns for the Durean sanctuaries
and about how they were experienced.

00:37:43.630 --> 00:37:48.230
And perhaps one ought to give more
priority to those temples that have

00:37:48.231 --> 00:37:52.330
received less scholarly attention simply
because they were not quite as well

00:37:52.331 --> 00:37:54.450
preserved as those covered by the
embankments.

00:37:54.470 --> 00:37:55.470
Thank you.

00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:03.960
Thank you so much.

00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:06.920
We have a few minutes for questions now.

00:38:07.160 --> 00:38:09.920
Thank you, some of you, to ask.

00:38:10.080 --> 00:38:11.320
Also, online...

00:38:15.090 --> 00:38:18.430
Those online, we have a few minutes for
questions.

00:38:18.610 --> 00:38:20.770
You want to ask something.

00:38:27.390 --> 00:38:28.910
So, may I start?

00:38:31.150 --> 00:38:32.410
I don't see...

00:38:40.330 --> 00:38:41.330
Let's see...

00:38:46.090 --> 00:38:48.010
They haven't seen the PowerPoint?

00:38:48.390 --> 00:38:49.106
No.

00:38:49.130 --> 00:38:50.130
That's okay.

00:38:50.350 --> 00:38:52.050
Well... Thank you so much.

00:38:52.290 --> 00:38:55.910
I think the documentation of the
Duru-Ropos is incredible.

00:38:56.350 --> 00:38:58.230
I'm always fascinated to hear about it.

00:38:59.430 --> 00:39:02.430
I have questions or remarks.

00:39:02.650 --> 00:39:06.757
I was impressed by the
contrast between the first

00:39:06.758 --> 00:39:09.870
inscription you mentioned
and the temple of...

00:39:11.390 --> 00:39:12.650
A flood?

00:39:12.770 --> 00:39:13.746
A flood.

00:39:13.770 --> 00:39:14.770
Eh...

00:39:14.890 --> 00:39:16.090
Because the worshippers...

00:39:16.670 --> 00:39:21.550
Because of the worshippers' insistence on
the identity of the god and his

00:39:21.551 --> 00:39:27.970
provenance, and that makes a contrast in
relation with the other temples that you

00:39:27.971 --> 00:39:34.070
mentioned about the seers, the different
seers, Kyrios, Theos, or Megistus,

00:39:34.170 --> 00:39:36.030
because they are, like, very generic,
right?

00:39:36.510 --> 00:39:39.643
We have that insistence
on the identity of the god

00:39:39.663 --> 00:39:42.930
and the worshippers, and
then, like, that generity.

00:39:44.670 --> 00:39:45.950
That's interesting.

00:39:46.370 --> 00:39:50.590
And I was wondering if we
have the testimonies about the

00:39:50.591 --> 00:39:54.210
worshippers of these different
seers, or their provenance.

00:39:54.850 --> 00:40:00.636
Can we identify their
provenances, ethnic belongings,

00:40:00.637 --> 00:40:05.710
or do they give us a clue
on how mixed they are?

00:40:05.950 --> 00:40:08.370
I mean... So, thank you.

00:40:08.490 --> 00:40:12.510
Any questions on the different forms of
seers, I'm going to pass on to...

00:40:13.210 --> 00:40:13.530
Sorry.

00:40:13.531 --> 00:40:14.531
This is unfair.

00:40:16.130 --> 00:40:17.130
No, joking.

00:40:19.410 --> 00:40:24.330
So, the various things I want to say,
but keep it short in my answer.

00:40:24.590 --> 00:40:30.510
So, the temple of Aflaat, I think two
things are happening there.

00:40:32.310 --> 00:40:38.250
This inscription would suggest that a
group of people with indigenous names,

00:40:38.430 --> 00:40:43.730
generally believed to be connected to
Anat, because the god comes from Anat,

00:40:43.950 --> 00:40:50.190
had their own brotherhood and met
separately.

00:40:50.430 --> 00:40:54.875
But inscriptions from the
same temple, in Greek, are

00:40:54.876 --> 00:40:59.350
also showing the presence
in the building by Ahopaioi.

00:40:59.770 --> 00:41:06.370
So, this inscription is only a partial
picture.

00:41:07.770 --> 00:41:09.970
The Ahopaioi inscription should not be
forgotten.

00:41:09.971 --> 00:41:17.170
And, yeah, I agree with Lucien Nadir for
that.

00:41:17.730 --> 00:41:20.270
Aflaat of Anat is just an identity marker.

00:41:20.390 --> 00:41:22.750
But at the moment, they're going to
explain where Anat is.

00:41:24.510 --> 00:41:30.350
If I'm going to tell you that I live in
Durham, I will tell you where it is.

00:41:31.030 --> 00:41:34.871
If I talk to someone else
from the north-east of the

00:41:34.872 --> 00:41:38.390
UK, I don't have to say
precisely where Durham is.

00:41:38.510 --> 00:41:42.470
So, the fact is... The fact that it's the
village on the Euphrates, I think that's...

00:41:42.471 --> 00:41:46.410
You wouldn't say that if this was just
meant for people from that village.

00:41:47.610 --> 00:41:49.970
Anyway, that's debatable, but...

00:41:51.730 --> 00:41:59.730
So, this is clearly a specific deity whose
cult is open to people from elsewhere,

00:42:00.130 --> 00:42:08.130
which fits in with my belief how religious
life in Dura-Europos in general works.

00:42:08.630 --> 00:42:13.790
Polytheism works only when temples are,
in principle, open to anyone.

00:42:13.970 --> 00:42:16.990
It doesn't mean that everybody goes to
each temple all the time.

00:42:17.130 --> 00:42:21.390
But with the exception of the Mithraeum,
and obviously the synagogue and the

00:42:21.391 --> 00:42:24.990
church, I don't believe you would be
stopped at the gates.

00:42:25.030 --> 00:42:26.590
I'm sorry, you're not a member of this.

00:42:26.650 --> 00:42:29.730
You cannot... I mean, you cannot join the
banqueting room.

00:42:29.810 --> 00:42:31.590
Yes, but surely you can go into the
temple.

00:42:31.810 --> 00:42:34.410
Now, with the different forms of Zeus...

00:42:37.710 --> 00:42:41.490
So, you used the word generic, and
I think that's actually really spot on.

00:42:41.590 --> 00:42:44.190
And that's one of the points I was making
with Zeus-theos.

00:42:44.310 --> 00:42:45.186
It's just Zeus.

00:42:45.210 --> 00:42:51.170
I mean, it's not that Zeus-theos is not an
epithet.

00:42:51.210 --> 00:42:55.930
It's just a label meaning God,
like one does in Aramaic with Baal-alaha.

00:43:00.170 --> 00:43:03.590
Dura-Europos, as far as I see it,
is a very typical small town.

00:43:04.530 --> 00:43:07.670
This was challenged by Simon Price,
who said, no, it's an exception.

00:43:07.850 --> 00:43:09.310
What happens in Dura is exceptional.

00:43:09.650 --> 00:43:14.916
I believe what happens
in Dura is extremely typical,

00:43:14.917 --> 00:43:17.890
with the exception of what
the Pomeranians are doing.

00:43:18.590 --> 00:43:22.578
My argument would be
that what makes Dura look

00:43:22.579 --> 00:43:25.810
different is the evidence
for the Pomeranians.

00:43:26.210 --> 00:43:29.070
But that's because the Pomeranians are
very different.

00:43:29.970 --> 00:43:33.470
Because if you study Palmyra, that's
exceptional.

00:43:35.450 --> 00:43:37.910
Everything in Palmyra is looking west and
east.

00:43:38.090 --> 00:43:41.184
Dura is, I think, a very
typical small town with

00:43:41.185 --> 00:43:44.370
lots of Artemis Zeus and
then village temples, etc.

00:43:45.490 --> 00:43:50.830
So it's the Pomeranian evidence that makes
Dura look exceptional, not Dura itself.

00:43:52.170 --> 00:43:53.770
Anyway, that would be a different paper.

00:43:54.050 --> 00:43:59.650
So, but the main point is, and I'm sorry
to disappoint there, because I'm well

00:43:59.651 --> 00:44:03.450
aware that I haven't really said a lot
about the interaction between those cults.

00:44:03.451 --> 00:44:07.590
But for that, we really lack the evidence.

00:44:07.970 --> 00:44:15.490
Even with the most famous synagogue from
antiquity and the earliest house church in

00:44:15.491 --> 00:44:19.210
the same street, we have no evidence for
interaction.

00:44:19.370 --> 00:44:23.170
We assume that they must have known about
each other's existence, but they can't.

00:44:23.310 --> 00:44:24.350
There's nothing.

00:44:25.230 --> 00:44:26.230
Thank you.

00:44:27.530 --> 00:44:28.386
Greta?

00:44:28.410 --> 00:44:29.346
Thank you so much.

00:44:29.370 --> 00:44:30.370
That's fascinating.

00:44:30.710 --> 00:44:32.270
And I was completely confused.

00:44:32.271 --> 00:44:39.610
Can you tell me a bit more about the
descriptions, because I want the...

00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:59.300
Yes, so thank you for a very good
question.

00:44:59.500 --> 00:45:00.980
Greek is the common language in Dura.

00:45:03.500 --> 00:45:04.400
Another paper.

00:45:04.401 --> 00:45:09.440
Another paper would be to emphasize that
when we talk about...

00:45:09.441 --> 00:45:11.161
We always talk about Palmyra in
scholarship.

00:45:11.300 --> 00:45:16.580
But Palmyra is, as Fergus Miller called
it, a direct citation, Palmyra was the

00:45:16.581 --> 00:45:19.720
only publicly bilingual city in the Roman
Near East.

00:45:20.660 --> 00:45:22.680
Page 470 in the Roman Near East.

00:45:23.080 --> 00:45:25.752
This is a running joke with
my students that I know that

00:45:25.753 --> 00:45:27.793
that specific page name,
but only that one by heart.

00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:29.640
But Palmyra is publicly bilingual.

00:45:29.860 --> 00:45:31.960
We never say it's not more Palmyra.

00:45:31.961 --> 00:45:34.260
We only say Palmyra, because that's the
convention.

00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:39.080
Whereas we always say Dura-Europos,
and Leviticus insists on Aeropos-Dura or

00:45:39.081 --> 00:45:44.120
Aeropos, and we abbreviate it to Dura,
which is the indigenous label.

00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:49.000
But Dura hyphen Aeropos,
or indeed Aeropos hyphen

00:45:49.001 --> 00:45:52.440
Dura, the main language
in the town is Greek.

00:45:52.720 --> 00:45:55.620
And the Aramaic is only used...

00:45:55.621 --> 00:45:59.180
Well, Palmyra in Aramaic is used by the
Palmyranes in Dura-Europos.

00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:01.880
There are a few inscriptions in Hartreen
Aramaic.

00:46:01.881 --> 00:46:05.220
There's one or two in Syriac, so Edesse in
Aramaic.

00:46:07.120 --> 00:46:10.074
Then there's quite
a bit of Latin for the

00:46:10.075 --> 00:46:12.480
military, two Parsian
dialects, some Saffaetic.

00:46:12.700 --> 00:46:17.060
So Dura has evidence for much more
languages than Palmyra has.

00:46:17.640 --> 00:46:21.040
But in terms of public language,
the city is Greek.

00:46:21.180 --> 00:46:23.300
Again, that's a point that Fergus Miller
already made.

00:46:23.680 --> 00:46:27.060
Pars-Parsian Dura, there's nothing Parsian
about Parsian Dura.

00:46:27.200 --> 00:46:30.540
When we look epigraphically, Parsian Dura
is Greek.

00:46:30.541 --> 00:46:33.980
And even Roman Dura is Greek, apart from
the military.

00:46:34.200 --> 00:46:40.360
So the fact that this inscription and also
this one...

00:46:40.361 --> 00:46:45.740
So Selaikos, the name of the strategos,
is a traditional Greek Macedonian name.

00:46:46.600 --> 00:46:51.257
But the fact that an
inscription set up by people with

00:46:51.258 --> 00:46:54.880
indigenous names is in
Greek is not surprising at all.

00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:58.080
That's the common language in Dura.

00:46:58.081 --> 00:47:00.960
What would be surprising is if they set up
an inscription in Aramaic.

00:47:01.440 --> 00:47:04.860
We would like that to happen, but this is
completely common.

00:47:05.160 --> 00:47:08.520
The public language in Dura, in
Dura-Europos, is Greek.

00:47:09.240 --> 00:47:13.700
So from that perspective, we should call
it Greek.

00:47:13.860 --> 00:47:14.980
But that's not his argument.

00:47:15.180 --> 00:47:16.380
So we should call it Aeropos.

00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:18.880
But that's not his argument.

00:47:21.560 --> 00:47:22.560
Oh, yeah.

00:47:23.620 --> 00:47:24.620
.

00:47:28.820 --> 00:47:29.820
That's good.

00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:32.260
Sorry, I was thinking
how did you... Sorry.

00:47:32.360 --> 00:47:33.480
No, no, you're controlling it.

00:47:33.500 --> 00:47:33.756
Excellent.

00:47:33.780 --> 00:47:34.036
Sorry.

00:47:34.060 --> 00:47:35.060
This one?

00:47:37.870 --> 00:47:38.430
.

00:47:38.431 --> 00:47:41.370
You said the epiphysis from the sanctuary.

00:47:44.730 --> 00:47:49.750
So I don't really understand how you
understand this exit.

00:47:50.150 --> 00:47:53.763
Because I studied this
inscription in my thesis, and

00:47:53.764 --> 00:47:57.750
I thought it was like the
epiphysis of the sanctuary.

00:47:57.990 --> 00:47:59.570
So for me, it was a lack of foundation.

00:47:59.571 --> 00:48:01.290
Of the sanctuary.

00:48:01.610 --> 00:48:04.470
I don't know if you would really want to
see that.

00:48:04.610 --> 00:48:10.030
And also in relation to the sanctuary,
to the archaeological sanctuary.

00:48:11.330 --> 00:48:13.630
Can we see this as a foundation?

00:48:15.690 --> 00:48:23.690
Also because Aramaic was founded for his
own house.

00:48:24.590 --> 00:48:27.150
So it's like, it looks like a family home.

00:48:27.530 --> 00:48:28.530
.

00:48:29.110 --> 00:48:30.110
Thank you.

00:48:30.130 --> 00:48:30.346
Thank you.

00:48:30.370 --> 00:48:31.530
There's two different things.

00:48:32.490 --> 00:48:40.490
So the dedication, he sets this up as a
vow for his own salvation and that of his

00:48:40.491 --> 00:48:46.890
children and of his whole house is the
Greek version of, for the life of in

00:48:46.891 --> 00:48:51.910
Aramaic inscriptions from Hathrop or Myron
and Edessa and Nabatea.

00:48:51.990 --> 00:48:57.890
So that is just, I set this up for myself,
for my life, for my salvation.

00:48:57.891 --> 00:49:00.090
And that of my family and my household.

00:49:00.170 --> 00:49:02.490
That doesn't mean that therefore the cult
is a family cult.

00:49:03.930 --> 00:49:05.090
I'm insistent on that.

00:49:05.550 --> 00:49:07.670
Your other, your first part of the
question.

00:49:08.190 --> 00:49:08.846
Yes.

00:49:08.870 --> 00:49:11.990
So you say you would insist on of rather
than from.

00:49:12.710 --> 00:49:13.586
Yeah.

00:49:13.610 --> 00:49:14.126
Sorry.

00:49:14.150 --> 00:49:19.990
To be honest, I, yeah, I'm not sure it
makes that much of a difference.

00:49:20.110 --> 00:49:25.250
I am happy to go with what you say about
that.

00:49:25.370 --> 00:49:26.890
This would be a foundation.

00:49:26.891 --> 00:49:28.710
A foundation of this cult.

00:49:29.030 --> 00:49:31.130
I think that's correct.

00:49:32.870 --> 00:49:37.730
The point is that a phaedrus is,
and this is, this was long ago argued by

00:49:37.731 --> 00:49:42.799
Louis Robert, that that
term implies that it's an actual

00:49:42.800 --> 00:49:49.010
copy of the cults, of the
cults, cult relief in Anat.

00:49:49.230 --> 00:49:51.930
And I'm not, I'm not convinced by that
either.

00:49:53.230 --> 00:49:54.230
Seriously?

00:49:54.330 --> 00:49:54.590
Yes.

00:49:54.591 --> 00:49:58.790
Because even if they claim this is a,
I mean, it would only be true if we're

00:49:58.791 --> 00:50:03.248
dealing with a cult that
is, that has an orthodoxy of

00:50:03.249 --> 00:50:09.270
iconography like Jupiter
Lolicanus, like Jupiter Heliopolitanus.

00:50:09.370 --> 00:50:13.930
And the thing is, we know nothing about
Aflaat apart from what we know from Douro.

00:50:14.690 --> 00:50:17.560
So it would be really
nice if we found the cult,

00:50:17.561 --> 00:50:20.030
the centre of Aflaat
on the island of Anat.

00:50:21.010 --> 00:50:24.070
And it has been, well, people have
excavated on Anat.

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But not found anything.

00:50:25.790 --> 00:50:27.750
So it's not that large.

00:50:27.870 --> 00:50:28.826
So, but no, no.

00:50:28.850 --> 00:50:32.694
But yeah, I agree with
you that this is, so I should

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have said of instead of
from, that it's a foundation.

00:50:35.910 --> 00:50:36.446
Yeah.

00:50:36.470 --> 00:50:43.870
But that still doesn't mean that therefore
it is indeed a direct copy of, it could be.

00:50:44.150 --> 00:50:49.970
I can say that I studied a little bit this
term in my thesis and it's related to

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foundation, but it's not necessarily a
copy of the statue.

00:50:53.090 --> 00:50:54.550
I could have understood it.

00:50:54.551 --> 00:50:59.550
It was like transferring some kind of
material from the original sanctuary to

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the other one in relation
with the foundation,

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but not necessarily a
strict copy of the statue.

00:51:04.450 --> 00:51:08.750
It could be also remains of sacrifices or
other substance.

00:51:09.310 --> 00:51:11.450
That's what I could understand.

00:51:11.710 --> 00:51:17.050
And I already, it sounds like related to
the foundation, this act, this expression.

00:51:17.430 --> 00:51:18.430
Yeah.

00:51:20.990 --> 00:51:23.210
It's a shame that we have this term.

00:51:23.810 --> 00:51:29.470
In the context of a god who comes from
Anat and we have no information about Anat.

00:51:30.490 --> 00:51:37.030
Whereas we have lots of information from
Palmyra and from Pomeranian temples in

00:51:37.031 --> 00:51:43.090
Dura, where if this claim was made for a
so-called Pomeranian temple in Dura,

00:51:43.190 --> 00:51:46.190
we could test it because we have the
information back home in Palmyra.

00:51:46.390 --> 00:51:48.610
But then, yeah.

00:51:50.690 --> 00:51:52.490
But again, there would be different papers
as well.

00:51:52.491 --> 00:51:53.491
Yes.

00:51:54.110 --> 00:51:55.410
Well, thank you so much.

00:51:55.530 --> 00:51:56.530
I think we can move on.

00:51:56.590 --> 00:51:59.490
Later on, we will have a longer discussion
today.

00:51:59.670 --> 00:52:02.910
So we're going to start the first session.

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And the first participant is online.

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So see.